Realm to Realm

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Karin
Welcome to Realm to Round. For fun and enlightening multidimensional interviews. Hello, Diana.

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Diana
Hello, Karin.

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Karin
How are you doing today?

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Diana
I'm good. How are you?

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Karin
I'm pretty good. I'm pretty good. So I think we have an idea who's going to. Come on. Let's see. Let me see if I can say it differently. I think we have a vision for who's coming on today to talk. Something that's been bothering me for a while.

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Diana
Yeah, they kind of, like, piped up and said, okay, yes, we want to be on.

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Karin
And they are my eyeballs, right?

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Diana
Yes. I'm not just your eyeballs, I guess. Your eyebrows. Maybe it's just your eyeballs, but it's not like a pair of eyeballs. Meaning it's like one unit. It's like they're each individual.

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Karin
Oh, so we have two yesterday.

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Diana
Two guests. Right?

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Karin
Two guests.

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Diana
Like twins. Right?

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Karin
Identical twins.

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Diana
Yeah. They mean look the same. Got two completely different personalities and minds and consciousnesses and energies.

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Karin
Okay, I'm not one of those symmetrical looking people, so I don't need to know. That might actually look the same, but they are the same color.

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Diana
Yeah, okay.

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Karin
And they are on the same face.

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Diana
Yes they are, they are on the same face.

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Karin
All right. So welcome. See or she come the left eyeball on the right eyeball.

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Diana
Yeah. They're saying that's okay, but I don't like eyeball.

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Karin
Oh, the sound kind of morbid. Yeah. Oh, do you like.

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Diana
I like, vision. Do I? Know, I think they're just preferring sort of like one one word. Hi names.

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Karin
Okay. Oh.

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Diana
Which reflect the left and right.

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Karin
Okay.

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Diana
But, it's another word for right.

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Karin
The nature. Yeah. And it's a Spanish word. But just.

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Diana
Start with D, because I like it. I know I saw something like dee dee dee dee dee dee. Okay.

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Diana
Okay. Yeah. It's direct. Oh, direct is which one? It's the right one.

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Karin
All right.

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Diana
And the left one is.

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Karin
The creative, the wonder.

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Diana
No. Sometimes starts for the s s. Yeah. Soft, direct. And, what's your name? Come on. What's your name? Silent.

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Karin
Silent. Shiloh. Shallow.

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Diana
Directing and silent.

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Karin
Direct and.

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Diana
Silent. That's it.

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Karin
Okay, okay. This is getting loaded already. Get this in. Silent. Sure. The word is loaded with all kinds of.

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Diana
But this. This is what they wanted.

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Karin
Opposite meanings. So direct is the right one.

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Diana
And silent.

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Karin
Is the left.

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Diana
One. Is the left.

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Karin
One. Okay, so interesting names is there.

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Diana
You see, you had mentioned earlier that somehow both of them are feeling fatigued.

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Karin
Yeah. It's,

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Diana
If we're gonna ask them why they're feeling.

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Karin
Fatigued. Yeah. Why? Why are you feeling fatigued? And is there a different reason for each one of you? The right one is often way more fatigued than the left one. I will say, though, is it direct directors more fatigued than silent?

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Diana
Okay, if I may say she's okay, not really. She. And she is like, I don't want to say it either, but they okay. There you go. It's not they plural. It's maybe I'll just say direct. Sure. Direct feels like it's tired from giving too many orders. I mean, really sick. Like future orders to control things.

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Karin
So direct is in directing director.

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Diana
Right? Right. And that is, that is getting. I'm going to see her. That's getting make her awfully, awfully, awfully tired.

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Karin
Okay. And she's.

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Diana
Still I don't sleep.

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Karin
Interesting. So when I was just on a vacation to the French Polynesian islands, I wasn't directing anything.

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Diana
Oh, she said that? That's all. That was a lovely rest.

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Karin
Two weeks. No computers, very little fun. No. Nobody directed, nobody directing me. It was just.

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Diana
She said she had such a good time. It was just, so lovely to relax and not do anything.

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Karin
Because, just like, on the way back, she started having to work. Now, who's directing the eyeballs directing or the.

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Diana
Eyeball is directing? Yes. It's like.

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Karin
What?

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Diana
And and then, like, you're not direct. It's not taking any directions from anybody else. Direct is directing.

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Karin
Direct is directing. So it's kind of hard to like, imagine this, because sometimes you feel like, well, your higher self is directing you or and that would be directing the eyeball where to look and what you're saying the eyeballs tell me where to look.

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Diana
The eyeball is stuff, you know, direct to the eyeball and direct does what direct feels is why you can see direct does what she wants, but it's in actuality she she does what she feels is necessary.

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Karin
Okay. So she's sensing a real, level of responsibility to something.

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Diana
Yes to yes, yes, yes.

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Karin
To my life. To others.

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Diana
It's to you in the world and the universe. She feels like she has to take charge somehow.

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Karin
What's really interesting, that an eyeball would take charge, though. There has to be some frame of reference here for usually, you know, you're like, oh, your ego's in charge, or oh, you're. And it's somehow your response feels responsible for discerning what's important to do or necessary to do.

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Diana
No, she feels it. She has to do it because I know this may sound like this. This is what she said, right? Okay. Because she feels like you can do it yourself.

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Karin
Me personally can't do it. You're right off. So the eyeballs.

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Diana
Silent. This is starting to say something. Okay? Right.

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Karin
You might as well give silent a voice here, because silence done being silent, I think.

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Diana
And try to say okay. She sometimes tries to interject in comics stop direct from taking over everything. Because she knows it's kind of like not the right way to go, but she's much lesser in power, too much less.

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Karin
Powerful. And why is that? Why would one of the same person the same, had the same face? One I have much more power than the other.

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Diana
They don't know.

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Karin
They don't know how that happened. How long's it been happening like that?

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Diana
Oh, probably ever since you're born. Really?

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Karin
Okay. So silent. One more rest.

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Diana
So, you know, silence does not silent. Doesn't want more rest. Silent wants to have more of an equal say in things.

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Karin
So if I put a patch on direct, you can, I.

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Diana
Have no doubt put a real patch on there, but kind of like, spiritual patch or, something to to break, calm, direct down.

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Karin
Okay.

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Diana
So she doesn't feel like she needs to get into this frenetic kind of activity to control everything.

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Karin
And this is all coming from an I. I've got click on an eyeball and I so.

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Diana
It's sometimes, sometimes, sometimes they really like each other or sometimes it's like they're really just three Star Wars with each other. So the wow.

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Karin
So is this the same for other people or is it just me?

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Diana
They don't know this. They don't know. They can they can ask other parts of your body if this is if if this is unusual.

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Karin
If it's unusual in the scheme of human beings.

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Diana
But, you know, if it's unusual for you. Right.

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Karin
Well, if it's been happening my whole life.

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Diana
Guys. I mean, usually you think of a human being as having two of everything. Mostly. Well, except for the internal organs, right?

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Karin
Yeah.

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Diana
So,

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Karin
Your two kidneys.

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Diana
Yeah. Yes. That's true.

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Karin
But anyway, that, it's kind of confounding me because I'd never heard of such a thing before. Where were eyeballs correcting me one time when I was trying to help.

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Diana
You know, the. Okay, like.

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Karin
Children. You said right from the beginning.

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Diana
They're both. They're both trying to help, okay? They both strongly believe that they're helping them. Okay? It's not like they want to intentionally do any harm. Right? Okay. But but they have very two very different approaches to this.

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Karin
So how is this.

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Diana
And it's complicated by the fact that they know what the other one is doing. And they don't agree. A lot of the time it's like they're coming. We're not really fighting, but there's there's karmic tension and stuff between the two.

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Karin
Right? So there's this tension then affecting like my whole head giving me these headaches and no. Well optical nerve pain. Yeah.

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Diana
I mean it's the the frenetic hyperactivity of the right eyeball and the tension between them. So don't keep silent. I think if you let silent do more work everything will be calmer. It'll be less tension.

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Karin
Of grappling with the idea and an eyeball. Do any work at all.

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Diana
Well you can't take that away from him.

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Karin
No I can, I mean I'm fascinated. This is I think this is a first.

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Diana
They want to be they I mean, they're part of you, you know, it's not like you can tell them. Stop working. No, no. Me.

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Karin
No, no, but I, I try, I use I'm a visual artist is maybe some of my listeners know, our listeners know. And I use my eyes a lot. I engage my eyes to be used a lot. So I at least I thought I was someone engaging them to be used a lot in my visual work. You know, when I'm photographing and color correcting and or painting and creating things, I my eyes are very important to me in, in the roles that I do things as an artist.

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Karin
So I'm just curious.

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Diana
Well, let's let's try something. Okay. I just thought of this way. You're going to look at something, I guess you'll you'll get to pick and choose what? What you want to look at. But here I can look at it with both eyes. You can look at it first with the right eye and then with the left eye.

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Diana
And while you're looking at it with each feature, realize you're going to notice a what it is that you're actually seeing and how it and the feelings that are associated that come up with what you're seeing. Okay. And then you're going to compare that with silent. Okay.

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Karin
I will grab one of these pictures of a flower.

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Diana
Okay. Yeah. It would be good though if you don't look at it beforehand with both eyes. Oh, okay. Now so tell you what I'm going to pick a picture.

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Karin
Okay.

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Diana
You close your eyes okay. Just open okay. One and then the other. Okay. Who's going to go first? Director. Silent.

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Karin
Silent saying she wants to go first okay.

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Diana
So.

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Karin
All right, well, this is a kind of a blue button flower.

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Diana
Then what are your. Well, I kind of like your first impressions. Yeah, I.

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Karin
I just, I shadow white puffy center of it and like, little angels and softness coming from the whole image is rising up out of it. But I noticed most of the white puffiness in the, in the center. Okay.

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Diana
And can you describe kind of like.

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Karin
My feelings kind.

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Diana
Of feelings or emotions associated with see if.

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Karin
I guess that it just feels comforting to me. Okay.

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Karin
To be my regular, peaceful, comforting and peaceful.

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Diana
Comforting and peaceful. Yeah. Okay. So there's what you're seeing is sort of, like, very soft, fluffy, pillowy things. And then feelings of comfort, peaceful. Okay, now what you're going to do is you do not close both eyes. Now and then just open the right eye. It's going to be the same flower. So what do you what do you see?

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Karin
I see energy rising up out of the flower.

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Diana
Purpose. Okay. Is it a purpose? It's calling you to action or purpose. It requires activity.

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Karin
It's. I wouldn't say it's either one of those. It's just a, like, the focus is more on the little lines of the stamens and stuff like that that come out. So it's more linear and, you know, it's a purpose that's has maybe a call to action. Okay.

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Diana
It's energetic and purposeful.

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Karin
Yeah.

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Diana
Okay. So what are the part what are the feelings and emotions associated with.

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Karin
I'm no I'm just getting a sense that there's stuff to do. Oh there's a lot to do. Is that a feeling. There's a lot to do.

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Diana
Okay. Okay. Now this is the third part.

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Karin
Of it okay.

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Diana
Okay. You're going to close your eyes again.

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Karin

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Diana
And now you're going to look at it with both eyes open.

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Karin
With my glasses or without the glasses.

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Diana
Well do you need your glasses. You were using glasses. And the last two times. So don't to go out.

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Karin
And we're like just a little bit of help. But after a while staring at things, sometimes you want to have them. My eyes are.

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Diana
So, so wet. What do you see now?

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Karin
Oh, that's really weird. Just looks. It looks more like the pillowy soft stuff. Like the relaxing stuff. Like the more peaceful parts of it with or without the glasses on.

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Diana
Oh, interesting.

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Karin
Yeah. Like the to do list is. And there's little, points of light on each, each of the statements like hope.

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Diana
Little pieces of hope, And the sort of like is, is the hope associated is the feeling associate. That's the feeling it's associated with. Are there other feelings?

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Karin
The longer I stare at it, the more I see the to do list.

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Karin
I'm just giving you my first impression versus like, if I stare at it too long. So maybe I'm. Maybe I'm overthinking things or.

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Diana
I don't know. Okay, so for when you look when directed. So looked at the flower. You gave your first impressions, right? Okay. Now, what I find quite interesting is that they were different.

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Karin
They're different pictures. Not just the.

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Diana
Same picture, but you describe.

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Karin
Three differently. Oh, from the different eyes, different eyeballs. Right.

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Diana
And so, it could be that just talking about this is giving silent more pursuing more more power to so control.

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Karin
So and so and eventually change your name from silent to oh wow. Or something like that. You get the directing and then you've got the allowing or the directing in the unfolding.

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Diana
Yeah. Okay.

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Karin
I've heard that name would change to unfolding itself.

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Diana
So silent. Right, right. So now, okay, now that you've done this with what? With first one eye and then the other eye, and both eyes, do you sense any tension in there, or is there any kind of like, feeling of like,

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Karin
Well, I was noticing that I felt a little less tension the more I think about the tension. No, you know, you can conjured up.

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Diana
Well, yeah, I know I it's okay.

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Karin
At first I thought it was less tension. Okay. You know, there's still a little pressure or more pressure on the right side.

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Diana
Just a little bit.

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Karin
But it was less tension in the first.

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Diana
Okay.

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Karin
But when you talk about it, I can feel them going. Oh, we. Like little kids or cats?

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Diana
Kittens. Okay. So, now do you have more questions? Because what I can see to resolve this or start to resolve it is, you know, I mean, they have to interact more with, collaborate more with each other. It's like direct. Can't be taken over all the time.

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Karin
Right. Well, this is getting a little trippy for me because I never really thought of my eyes directing my life. You know, I mean, sitting there in your eyes like, I know this is the way we are when we're infants. You know, it's like when an infant notices something and they, their whole body starts to reach for it, and they go for that goal.

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Karin
Right? So the vision is very much a part of goal setting. And if the one eyes of goal setting.

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Diana
Go gung ho.

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Karin
Gung ho, it's almost like that's the type A personality and sound is a type Z personality. And whatever that type B is.

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Diana
So okay, now do you want to I don't suggest doing this. I don't suggest taking control out of Durex, completely out of Durex.

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Karin
And know that when that was cute.

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Diana
Vision, whatever you wanted.

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Karin
Out of its cornea.

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Diana
But I mean, certainly something has to be done. But I mean, this is kind of like a, you know, it has to achieve the monkey mind in that somehow. It's like.

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Karin
Monkey mind. Is monkey mind supposed to be like transformative mind or or transformation mind or.

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Diana
Something evolving mind. The evolving goal.

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Karin
I can remember that.

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Diana
And it's like, you know what activity. It's like frenetic. Like you always circling your thoughts about what should be done. What are you doing badly? This that the other. Right. So this is not really it's a little bit like that, but it's, you want you want to direct AI to be less controlling.

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Karin
And you want to sound AI to have more.

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Diana
More of a say, more.

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Karin
Of a say or more you basically you want you want them to.

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Diana
Collaborate.

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Karin
You want them to collaborate evenly. So when you see people, they're like one of my eyes sagging, which I sags.

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Diana
You mean you mean the eye itself or it's growing the the the skin underneath.

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Karin
I, I think removes the skin over the eye.

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Diana
When I see the other.

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Karin
Yeah. Which I see more. Ooh.

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Diana
Is a direct eye.

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Karin
Direct eye smaller? Yes. That's the right eye. Yeah.

00;20;16;25 - 00;20;24;05
Diana
Oh. Oh, it's overcompensating for what it thinks. What what she thinks are its deficiencies.

00;20;24;08 - 00;20;28;27
Karin
Who see. Oh. Direct. Correct. Oh she's overcoming for.

00;20;28;29 - 00;20;32;26
Diana
Oh compensating chase.

00;20;32;29 - 00;20;34;06
Karin

00;20;34;08 - 00;20;41;04
Diana
So it's like you can like say you know to overcompensate for you're just as good as the other one.

00;20;41;07 - 00;20;42;24
Karin
Even though you're smaller.

00;20;42;26 - 00;20;47;09
Diana
Yeah. You know you're smaller. You're just as good as the other one.

00;20;47;11 - 00;20;49;00
Karin
Well how did I get smaller in the first place.

00;20;49;02 - 00;20;50;18
Diana
I don't know.

00;20;50;20 - 00;20;59;07
Karin
So the director started directing to overcompensate. I mean, that's typical story, right? Hum. To you?

00;20;59;10 - 00;21;02;21
Diana
Exactly. You go stories Napoleon complex.

00;21;02;23 - 00;21;12;10
Karin
Right. Take it to. Oh, I'm small. I gotta be strong. What is the female story? You know. So like, I got a be twice as smart. That's right. To succeed.

00;21;12;13 - 00;21;12;23
Diana
Yeah.

00;21;12;26 - 00;21;16;10
Karin
You know that that whole. It's not just Napoleon. It has to.

00;21;16;11 - 00;21;17;08
Diana
Work.

00;21;17;10 - 00;21;26;06
Karin
For everyone. Little eyeballs syndrome. All right, you hear that little eyeball direct to.

00;21;26;08 - 00;21;28;19
Diana
Right. Okay, so maybe they need to.

00;21;28;21 - 00;21;34;13
Karin
You know, that directors heard of, like, nice things come in small packages. I mean.

00;21;34;13 - 00;21;56;05
Diana
It's there you go. There you go. You see. Direct should not feel bad because it's a little bit smaller you know I mean actually if you think in terms of it's like volume of of a human being. Right. If they're fat they're bigger, if they're small, they've got more muscle.

00;21;56;07 - 00;22;05;25
Karin
So wait a minute, they're small like a phone. Heavier people are automatically stronger.

00;22;05;27 - 00;22;08;04
Diana
You mean heavier in terms of how much they weigh?

00;22;08;08 - 00;22;18;04
Karin
Yeah, because they have to carry more weight. Center. Yeah. Anyway, that's. I don't want to take rest. So my eyes are a little more relaxed. And when we started for sure.

00;22;18;07 - 00;22;30;09
Diana
Okay, okay. So what what other things do you think it can do to actually make direct more more relaxed and more.

00;22;30;12 - 00;22;32;02
Karin
And sound more involved?

00;22;32;06 - 00;22;35;02
Diana
Yeah.

00;22;35;05 - 00;22;56;11
Karin
Well, sometimes you can do that thing where you, you know, you hold your finger out in front of another object and you, you can see which one is, has which eyeball has more control over your, over vision, overall vision. You know, so you see it by the way it moves. If it moves.

00;22;56;14 - 00;22;56;28
Diana
Okay.

00;22;56;28 - 00;23;02;15
Karin
If you know. Because jumping over to one side and that's on the other side has the power okay.

00;23;02;18 - 00;23;03;29
Diana
What do you see when you do that?

00;23;04;02 - 00;23;24;05
Karin
Well, my, when I open both my eyes and put my thumb right in the center of this microphone, and I close my, direct eye, my thumb jumps way over to the direct side. Yeah. And when I close my sound, I. It stays right in the middle.

00;23;24;08 - 00;23;25;17
Diana
Really?

00;23;25;20 - 00;23;26;22
Karin
What does that mean?

00;23;26;24 - 00;23;31;10
Diana
Wow. Oh, for me, I mean, it jumps side to side equally.

00;23;31;10 - 00;23;36;25
Karin
That's why your eyeballs I foreign I'm talking about your eyeball.

00;23;36;28 - 00;23;43;20
Diana
Mine. Okay. So when you okay. When does it jump to the middle. When you close. What are you close direct.

00;23;43;25 - 00;23;50;00
Karin
Would it stays in the middle? When I close? When I close silent.

00;23;50;03 - 00;23;52;10
Diana
When you close, silent, it stays in the middle.

00;23;52;11 - 00;24;02;02
Karin
Right. And when I close, direct it. Jump way over. So silent it's got less, oh, yeah. Less control over what I'm seeing.

00;24;02;02 - 00;24;02;22
Diana
Right.

00;24;02;25 - 00;24;11;00
Karin
So I could ask direct to stand down a little bit. Or I could wear a patch.

00;24;11;02 - 00;24;14;10
Diana
You can still do it. You think it's.

00;24;14;13 - 00;24;17;02
Karin
Okay? Yeah. I mean, so part of it may be the.

00;24;17;05 - 00;24;17;22
Diana
Direct.

00;24;17;22 - 00;24;20;07
Karin
Direct, very strong. And it's not.

00;24;20;10 - 00;24;22;06
Diana
It just doesn't really like that.

00;24;22;11 - 00;24;35;09
Karin
I, I'm I'm sure it doesn't. But somehow I've got to make because it's somewhat physical. Right. That's what we're looking at that physical test there and it's somewhat physical. Right. The sound might be actually weaker than physically and right.

00;24;35;14 - 00;24;42;01
Diana
Yeah. Okay. The physical test in terms of that coming from the microphone. Right, right. But the other tests looking at the flour.

00;24;42;04 - 00;24;44;10
Karin
Right just gave me different sensations.

00;24;44;15 - 00;24;48;03
Diana
Physical verbs. You actually saw different things in there right.

00;24;48;05 - 00;24;59;18
Karin
So lots of days I feel like I have a lot of things that I have to get done. I should get done. And, can I ask, I want to take care of monster.

00;24;59;20 - 00;25;04;06
Diana
Yeah. No, I mean, I think you should talk to both. Both the direct and silent.

00;25;04;08 - 00;25;07;01
Karin
Right. So direct rule over time.

00;25;07;04 - 00;25;11;06
Diana
Yes. Direct. Yeah. You know.

00;25;11;09 - 00;25;14;25
Diana
Remind direct of how nice it was in Moorea. Yeah.

00;25;14;26 - 00;25;17;15
Karin
How relaxed when it wasn't in charge.

00;25;17;17 - 00;25;19;02
Diana
And, you know.

00;25;19;04 - 00;25;19;27
Karin
If.

00;25;19;29 - 00;25;31;13
Diana
She really liked it. Really, really great. Now, ask if she does she want to replicate that or at least capture a little bit of that in everyday life here. Yes.

00;25;31;20 - 00;25;41;01
Karin
Yes she does. Out. All right. Me too. Yes. Just saying me to. Okay. And what about silent?

00;25;41;01 - 00;25;53;29
Diana
Who is silent and so silent says, yeah, okay. I want I want to be more active. You know, I'm gonna I'm gonna take charge of some stuff. Well, not not take charge, like.

00;25;54;02 - 00;26;00;13
Karin
Direct, but, But Maria was silent. More active because direct was less active.

00;26;00;15 - 00;26;02;08
Diana
You know, there wasn't that much to do.

00;26;02;10 - 00;26;10;22
Karin
Okay, so neither one of you, they were both on vacation? Yeah.

00;26;10;24 - 00;26;24;20
Diana
Except for silent. Like a lot of the time here, it's like enforced vacation. Nobody likes enforced vacation. None at all. It gets really boring, you know? So I think they're both happy with this.

00;26;24;22 - 00;26;25;20
Karin
Okay. All right.

00;26;25;20 - 00;26;29;09
Diana
So, direct certainly wants to be.

00;26;29;11 - 00;26;30;24
Karin
Doesn't want to be. Doesn't.

00;26;30;24 - 00;26;31;22
Diana
We're in vacation.

00;26;31;22 - 00;26;43;06
Karin
Mode. Okay. So he does not want me to put, like, a little patch on my eye that shows a bit blue waters of Maria. He could just stare up for a while. Silent starts.

00;26;43;08 - 00;26;45;02
Diana
Oh, you know, that's a good idea.

00;26;45;02 - 00;26;47;13
Karin
You know what you could do?

00;26;47;15 - 00;26;56;11
Diana
You should have a patch over your eye. Just wait for 5 or 10 minutes. Just look at a picture you have of the beach or whatever.

00;26;56;15 - 00;26;57;01
Karin
Maria.

00;26;57;01 - 00;27;15;29
Diana
Maria. Sailing, swimming, whatever with with the right. With direct, close sound. Right. So that. Well, it's like reinforce all this positive stuff there. Relaxation and release of tension has interesting more direct.

00;27;16;01 - 00;27;18;17
Karin
Okay. Sounds like a good plan.

00;27;18;17 - 00;27;19;13
Diana
Yeah.

00;27;19;15 - 00;27;45;03
Karin
Well, I'll try you listeners out there, those who study, some crazy stuff know that, vision is often the first thing that directs what we want and how to get it teaches us to learn to roll over and teaches us to learn to crawl and to just learn to walk. It actually may be running our entire life, and we never thought about it.

00;27;45;06 - 00;27;45;28
Diana
That's true.

00;27;46;04 - 00;27;52;27
Karin
I know is the same. I mean, it may not just be me, this may be something that a lot of people are dealing with, right?

00;27;53;00 - 00;27;54;29
Diana
That they have no idea at all.

00;27;54;29 - 00;28;06;03
Karin
Right? But we know there we know that it happens for babies. Then we figure at some point we just my brain takes over and I still don't do the work anymore.

00;28;06;05 - 00;28;11;18
Diana
No, I sneak there's yeah, there's a guttural.

00;28;11;18 - 00;28;16;19
Karin
No. So did my eyes have any advice for the listening audience?

00;28;16;21 - 00;28;23;16
Diana
There's they're telling everybody, take care of your eyes. They're important parts. You. They're valuable.

00;28;23;19 - 00;28;25;14
Karin
One thing. People already know all that.

00;28;25;19 - 00;28;26;20
Diana
Well, yeah.

00;28;26;20 - 00;28;35;08
Karin
How about this talk? Do they have a talk to your eyes or listen to your eyes and see if your eyes are actually on the same page?

00;28;35;10 - 00;28;57;10
Diana
Yeah. I mean, I'm sure everybody has had the experience of actually looking at something, whether it's a picture or action or real life scene. Right? And then you look at it again, it's like, oh, you never saw that. And then you look a third time. Fourth. It's like, oh, oh, it's something new.

00;28;57;12 - 00;29;04;06
Karin
Oh yeah. It happens all the time. Right, right. So if you got a so.

00;29;04;11 - 00;29;21;10
Diana
I know if you talk to your eyes. Right, I think they're saying you communicate however you want to, you don't really have to talk to them okay. So like I don't talk to them internally or whatever.

00;29;21;12 - 00;29;23;15
Karin
But they're actually they're actually.

00;29;23;18 - 00;29;29;00
Diana
They're doing their own thing. And you want to integrate what they're doing with with the rest of you.

00;29;29;01 - 00;29;42;01
Karin
Right. Exactly. So they're actually a part of your body that you can communicate with. And they they do have a lot of I want to say they have a lot of control, a lot more than I thought. I mean, this is I never even thought about my eyes.

00;29;42;04 - 00;29;42;23
Diana
Oh, no.

00;29;42;26 - 00;29;52;21
Karin
I sometimes I think, you know, oh, I got a, you know, talking leg and it's telling me something. But I never think of my eyes as being directing one directing and the other one staying silent.

00;29;52;21 - 00;29;55;09
Diana
Or it's like, you know, sometimes.

00;29;55;11 - 00;29;55;24
Karin
Maybe you're.

00;29;55;25 - 00;30;02;28
Diana
Seeing somebody whose eyes are on you. Yeah. Right. Yeah. And you're not even looking at them. That's true.

00;30;03;00 - 00;30;09;18
Karin
Sometimes it's, Yeah, maybe everybody has names that they could come up with for their eyes. Or they.

00;30;09;18 - 00;30;16;02
Diana
Would. They have. You don't necessarily have to name them, but they have to recognize that they're they've got their own real consciousnesses.

00;30;16;04 - 00;30;24;05
Karin
Okay. Well, consciousness survival. So it's very interesting. Are we complete or is there something out.

00;30;24;07 - 00;30;38;24
Diana
Oh, yes. Yeah. Now we all have, well, you know, you don't all have two eyes, but most of us have two eyes. But we all have an additional third eye.

00;30;38;27 - 00;30;43;15
Karin
Which we all have two eyes. Whether they we can see them or not is a different story, but go ahead.

00;30;43;16 - 00;30;54;01
Diana
Yeah, yeah. No, that's what I meant to say. Okay, but we also have a third eye. And the third eye actually wants to say something.

00;30;54;01 - 00;30;55;14
Karin
Okay, this is my third eye.

00;30;55;15 - 00;30;56;09
Diana
It's your third.

00;30;56;09 - 00;30;58;04
Karin
Eye. Third eyes wants to communicate.

00;30;58;04 - 00;30;59;03
Diana
Yes. Okay.

00;30;59;06 - 00;31;00;24
Karin
I feel the tension up there.

00;31;00;27 - 00;31;10;10
Diana
It's say it's been party. It's been observer this stuff for years. And, you know, it's gotten so.

00;31;10;10 - 00;31;15;02
Karin
Tired of this.

00;31;15;05 - 00;31;22;10
Karin
The war between the eyes. The third eye is tired of the war between my direct and my silent eyes.

00;31;22;13 - 00;31;27;14
Diana
Tired. And so I direct control, rolling actions and frenetic.

00;31;27;14 - 00;31;37;24
Karin
But wait a minute. The third eye. The third eye, I thought, was like, you know, an eye that you use typically for great insight. Yeah, I.

00;31;37;24 - 00;32;05;13
Diana
Know, but it's like it's set in your in your spiritual head or whatever, but it's also affected by everything that's going on around it. Yeah. Yeah. So and the eye direct and silent. We're in close proximity to it. So whenever this started going at each other it this affected the third eye okay. And the third eye.

00;32;05;15 - 00;32;06;12
Karin
That's the name of it.

00;32;06;16 - 00;32;08;17
Diana
The third eye.

00;32;08;20 - 00;32;14;26
Karin
We get direct to and silent. Yeah. Is in the middle of silent and direct.

00;32;15;01 - 00;32;32;02
Diana
Yeah. So now they're saying oh okay. They're, they're, they're glad that somehow some kind of resolution has been reached here. And they are taking it upon themselves to manage things more effectively.

00;32;32;05 - 00;32;33;19
Karin
The third eye will help manage.

00;32;33;23 - 00;32;34;21
Diana
Yes.

00;32;34;23 - 00;32;38;28
Karin
The relationship, the balance between right.

00;32;39;01 - 00;33;04;16
Diana
Meaning that the third eye will come direct down, help to calm, direct down and guide it into a more relaxed state, and then kind of like uplift and support to and give it guidance with respect to how it should go about how she it whatever they should go about with, with taking more action.

00;33;04;19 - 00;33;05;12
Karin
Okay.

00;33;05;15 - 00;33;07;21
Diana
So they're all going to be collaborating together.

00;33;07;23 - 00;33;08;19
Karin
Okay.

00;33;08;21 - 00;33;09;16
Diana
Interesting.

00;33;09;17 - 00;33;12;00
Karin
Okay. It's going to be really interesting. I'm wonder if.

00;33;12;00 - 00;33;41;19
Diana
I have, you know okay. So this is kind of weird right. Direct and silent. They seem to have their own little I can say physical consciousness is. But it's kind of like consciousness. Consciousness is that are more in this world. And, it's not quite here, but it also is here too. So it's got more power than no more.

00;33;41;22 - 00;33;47;28
Diana
Yeah, more power, but not necessarily to control them. It can guide them but can't control.

00;33;48;04 - 00;33;55;24
Karin
Right. So the third I was going to have a lot more power now over the eyes. The third eye is going to be more directing my life.

00;33;55;26 - 00;34;00;11
Diana
More is going to be guiding. It's going to be guiding. Oh yeah. Yeah.

00;34;00;13 - 00;34;01;08
Karin
Strong word.

00;34;01;12 - 00;34;02;13
Diana
So okay.

00;34;02;15 - 00;34;09;00
Karin
Right. Guiding my life, which actually is everyone's dream. Right. To be guided by your dream. And so.

00;34;09;03 - 00;34;20;10
Diana
You know, I mean, you should kind of like maybe focus your conversation with your eyes to the third eye. Not not necessarily to direct and silent.

00;34;20;13 - 00;34;21;20
Karin
Okay.

00;34;21;22 - 00;34;25;28
Diana
And yeah, but the energies from there are quite different really.

00;34;26;03 - 00;34;51;29
Karin
All three of them. Yeah. So sometimes there's like a masculine energy which is a little more form and, and functioning and a feminine energy which is a little more creativity and sort of manifestation on different halves of your body that that can be affected is that when you say direct and silence, it almost feels like you're dealing with like an imbalance in the masculine.

00;34;51;29 - 00;34;53;21
Karin
So feminine energy.

00;34;53;22 - 00;35;03;00
Diana
Well, I don't know if even if you if you put it that way, it's like, you're right, I it's got more masculine energy than the left side, the more feminine energy. Well, you know, action.

00;35;03;00 - 00;35;33;23
Karin
Action versus more. Right. Well, the fact that my left eye is silent doesn't make it anything. But if it was more feminine energy of creating and and, like the creation versus the form, you know, the masculine is the form seeker and the, the feminine is the creation seeker. And they work in balance, you know, because you can't have form without creation, can't have, right, evolution of anything without, creation.

00;35;33;23 - 00;36;11;27
Karin
So the creation is, everything is. And then the third eye is this great orchestrator up ahead because it, it it has vision into everything right and anything. So. Right. If it's if it's leading the way then then there's could be a bouncy, sort of a, a balance between the as a visionary, as a vision visual artist, visionary visual artist, you know, you could actually be having complete cooperation with your, your eyes to create form, to create form, you know, with creation and form, you know, not just trying to force form.

00;36;12;03 - 00;36;12;22
Diana
Right?

00;36;12;25 - 00;36;20;10
Karin
You know, you know, one I the, the feminine side is too weak to inactive is probably a better word.

00;36;20;12 - 00;36;23;03
Diana
Right now. Now you've got ways to support it.

00;36;23;03 - 00;36;34;29
Karin
Right. So you got this third eye up here. Now just going to be guiding the process and getting a little more symbiotic balance between the two eyes. And third eye is now happy too.

00;36;35;00 - 00;36;42;05
Diana
Yes. And they're all they're all happy now. They're all at the moment, they're all in agreement thinking that, oh, this is this is going to work this.

00;36;42;10 - 00;36;54;24
Karin
Okay. Fabulous. So so do they have any advice for our listeners? Just does everybody have a director? I and, sorry, I.

00;36;54;26 - 00;36;56;10
Diana
They can't speak for everybody.

00;36;56;13 - 00;36;56;24
Karin
Okay.

00;36;56;26 - 00;37;21;27
Diana
But I'm sure everybody has had experiences where it would be up to the person to decide who's which, which, which of their eyes is leading. But, everybody has had this experience where they look at a picture or, or an actual physical scene, you know, and they look at it again and they say, oh, I didn't see this before.

00;37;21;28 - 00;37;31;15
Diana
They could look at 5 or 6 times and then see something new every time. So the consciousness of the eye actually can make.

00;37;31;18 - 00;37;52;26
Karin
Well, I wonder yeah. I mean, I'm like sometimes you can look at things over and over again and you start to see, all kinds of dimensionality to them or different aspects of them. And then there's those paintings that you can stare at and if you stare at them long enough, your eyes relax and you see the some painting, you know, or some patterns that are on the right.

00;37;52;28 - 00;38;10;20
Diana
So they're. Yeah. So they are saying all three are fake, you know, I mean we are currently, you know, just appendages that that feed you information. We actually have our little consciousness is that and energies are our own.

00;38;10;22 - 00;38;11;14
Karin
Okay.

00;38;11;16 - 00;38;15;25
Diana
That interact with your whole being okay.

00;38;15;28 - 00;38;26;02
Karin
And they have a role that's quite the forefront at the forefront of what you decide to do or not to do and how you decide to be.

00;38;26;05 - 00;38;37;12
Diana
Yes. And because unless you're blind or right, or you'll pay attention to what you're looking at, then, right, you're you know, that's usually how people get information from the.

00;38;37;12 - 00;39;01;15
Karin
World around you. We all know that they do this from the babies, but interesting that maybe we still are doing it as adults. All right, well, thank you. Thank you director. I thank you Simon, I thank you. Third, I. Hear another acronym to memorize DT. Thank you Diana.

00;39;01;19 - 00;39;06;00
Diana
Thank you Karin. Thank you. Eyes.

00;39;06;02 - 00;39;14;16
Karin
All right, all right. Thank you. That wraps our podcast on consciousness of eyeballs.

00;39;14;19 - 00;39;21;06
Diana
Not.

00;39;21;09 - 00;39;22;04
Karin
You. Diana.

00;39;22;07 - 00;39;22;28
Diana
Hey, Karin.

00;39;23;03 - 00;39;31;00
Karin
We're back. We're back a few days later because we have an update on the eye situation that we thought was really important, right, Diana?

00;39;31;00 - 00;39;37;21
Diana
Yes, I think it is quite important. So I guess Karin can go ahead and explain the situation.

00;39;37;21 - 00;39;47;29
Karin
Well, my eyes are still we're still really hurting. They're not now. They were still felt like some kind of battle was going on.

00;39;48;02 - 00;39;50;27
Diana
And then the paint was moving back and forth move.

00;39;50;28 - 00;40;03;11
Karin
That was an all around the forehead. And so so we look back in there just a few minutes ago and, Diana, the grandfather showed up.

00;40;03;13 - 00;40;16;01
Diana
Yeah. Yeah. So, well, I don't know. I it seemed like the right eye had been hijacked. Correct. Right. Yeah.

00;40;16;02 - 00;40;25;10
Karin
This is some information we got also from, another, Mary was that maybe got hijacked when I was eight years old.

00;40;25;12 - 00;40;44;01
Diana
Yeah. Okay. So, so I, I started looking at the energy of Karin's eyes and, Yeah. Yeah. I mean, where it is, is still still running around there. The little guys in the white robes.

00;40;44;03 - 00;40;46;18
Karin
They show up from time to time on.

00;40;46;20 - 00;41;19;11
Diana
To help out, to help out where they're from, which. And so there are two of them came down and they proceeded to try to pull out this imposter or an invading energy or that had hijacked Karin's. Right. When I was eight. Yeah. And they were pulling out. They had it one, one white little guy had the right hand and one moved right at the left hand of this thing.

00;41;19;11 - 00;41;26;03
Diana
They're trying to pull it out of it. Stretched that, stretched. But the feet were still kind of like.

00;41;26;06 - 00;41;28;05
Karin
Stuck on it. Didn't want to go.

00;41;28;05 - 00;41;50;12
Diana
Didn't want to go. And oh no, no, no. They're trying and trying and trying to try to. Then I thought to myself, well, okay, maybe Reiki energy can do something. So, I proceeded to ask, the Reiki will try to, you know, place your space wherever it is energy.

00;41;50;17 - 00;42;04;18
Karin
You get the zero point nothing. But oh, sometimes it's called like zero point, but there's nothing. You know, you come to this real space of nothingness. No time, no space, no nothing. And.

00;42;04;21 - 00;42;31;02
Diana
I know for me, it's kind of this, this, this carpet for sure, all about, oh, carpet. Yeah. Okay. So anyway, it's some undulation in there. Okay. I think I got that right. Anyway, that energy came in and then my grandfather appeared. I believe I've talked about it before. And, you know, I said, okay, we're going back 20, 17 years old.

00;42;31;04 - 00;42;48;27
Diana
And so my grandfather appeared and I know he was able to actually prevent this energy from going into Karin's eye. And then he was currently holding it in his arms and cradling it like.

00;42;48;29 - 00;42;55;29
Karin
He wasn't taking it out. He was preventing it from embedding in there. How did it get out in the first place?

00;42;56;01 - 00;42;58;19
Diana
I think he was preventing it from getting in there.

00;42;58;26 - 00;43;01;00
Karin
You standing in the way between I.

00;43;01;00 - 00;43;24;12
Diana
Don't know, but I mean, I had this picture of him. He's got it in his arms. It's cradling like a baby. And he's come through here. Okay, okay. And then that went on for a little bit. I went I wasn't quite sure what my grandfather was going to do with that. I mean, he certainly I could do it if I took it out somewhere.

00;43;24;15 - 00;43;44;17
Karin
While Diana is doing this, laying down with my eyes closed and trying to get them to relax and they're finally relaxing. I think that's time their little energy eater entity or or invader had started to relax in the grandfather's arms.

00;43;44;20 - 00;44;14;06
Diana
Yeah. And then at one point, you know, my grandfather said, okay, finished. And then I proceeded to put, you know, white light back in there. And then he said, it's finished. And then, you know, I mean, it's still kind of around with this little I don't quite know what he's trying to do with it, but turn right here.

00;44;14;06 - 00;44;15;18
Diana
I still still feel better.

00;44;15;23 - 00;44;18;28
Karin
Yeah, I still feel better. Okay.

00;44;19;00 - 00;44;25;16
Diana
Great. Okay. And then I said thank you to my grandfather and Eric. Everybody else involved? Yeah.

00;44;25;19 - 00;44;26;12
Karin
Many thanks.

00;44;26;12 - 00;44;49;25
Diana
It was the Reiki energy. That little guy. Thank you. So, Diane. Oh, yeah. Another thing I was trying to do was also Catholic. My intention was not to destroy this negative energy, even to foster or hijacker. So I was just perfect. What was coming out of me at the end was kind of like, okay, just unconditional love for it.

00;44;49;25 - 00;44;54;20
Diana
And I think that's what my grandfather used to love. Okay. That's awesome.

00;44;54;22 - 00;45;07;17
Karin
Now. And I'm happy to report that my eyes feel a lot better and it feels like direct is calm and silence no longer silent, even though we're still going to call it Silent Night.

00;45;07;22 - 00;45;09;18
Diana
We're going to call it no, we're not going to call the same.

00;45;09;18 - 00;45;11;15
Karin
Words. I want to be calm now.

00;45;11;18 - 00;45;14;07
Diana
A direct one, direct to direct one.

00;45;14;07 - 00;45;14;19
Karin
And direct.

00;45;14;19 - 00;45;18;21
Diana
Two. There's like parallel there. Okay, parallel a parallel.

00;45;18;25 - 00;45;22;09
Karin
And what about my third eye? That's called the guide.

00;45;22;11 - 00;45;27;05
Diana
Whatever. Whatever it was called before the third eye is not any different.

00;45;27;10 - 00;45;28;10
Karin
Right. But that's still.

00;45;28;10 - 00;45;33;15
Diana
Guiding. But now they're all holding hands and I'm like dancing around in a circle.

00;45;33;18 - 00;45;59;24
Karin
Okay. Awesome. Well, we couldn't bear this podcast without a little sequel to what? What we what was revealed? Because it just felt like, you know, in the beginning, we didn't realize that there was, you know, it's like an invader that was kind of running the show when you don't have an invader in one of your eyes. And maybe they actually one doesn't run the show.

00;45;59;25 - 00;46;04;23
Karin
The other, I guess they can come in anywhere in your body, including your eyes.

00;46;04;26 - 00;46;05;23
Diana
Yeah.

00;46;05;25 - 00;46;12;21
Karin
Great. And Diana's grandfather said you shouldn't take on any of these. And I'm like, oh.

00;46;12;26 - 00;46;13;24
Diana
She left him in.

00;46;14;00 - 00;46;20;21
Karin
Yeah, I shouldn't let him in. But anything else we need to tell our audience from anybody?

00;46;20;24 - 00;46;25;14
Diana
Yeah. We're complete. Yeah. I'm just my grandfather's waving. Thank you.

00;46;25;14 - 00;46;38;04
Karin
Grandfather, so much for showing up today, All right. Bye. Learn more about us at realm two. RealmToRealm.com. And thank you for listening, sharing, and subscribing.